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PostSubject: Religious people wonder!   Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:15 am

This is a new article in my blog and currently is being discussed in my forum, I thought I'd throw it here in the mixer.


Once upon a time I believed in a kind and good God who created the universe, all beings and humanity included.

I used to believe in a heaven, where all the good people get rewarded and united with their loved ones.
I used to believe that "I" will be here forever!!

I used to think atheists are nothing but harsh people with no hearts and completely indulged in sins and immoral earthly pleasures....Man, was I wrong!

Not to be hard on myself I was only 14 when I had these thoughts, praying 5 times a day and very proud of my new facial hair that I could then grow for the love of our beloved prophet.

Humans for centuries must have wondered where do we go after death? How come we are able to feel our own consciousness and can step outside of ourselves to self-evaluate?

Why do we have that strong passion to advance? Why do we have that curious force that pushes us to find out?

Oh no....No, I can't accept that....I....die, be forgotten and perish forever? What would then happen to my thoughts, my memories, my beautiful face, my EGO?

I must say, I do sympathise with religious people....after all it's a very hard question that no one really knew for certain the answer for!

Our wishes and day-dreaming throughout the ages have led us to where we are at the moment. Top of the food chain, king of the species and conquerors of the universe.

The same wishful thinking led us to believe that we as individuals were brought here for a reason and we are indestructible if we choose to be good, for that we will be here for eternity!

The definition of the purpose of life combined with the one true message and the chosen one has varied based on the geographical location, time, culture and language.

We have lied to ourselves and ended up believing in that beautiful eternal existence...

The ancient Egyptians mummification, vampires, the elixir of life, religions and God are interpretations and reflections of our own obsession with eternal life. We know Count Dracula does not exist, but we still shiver of fear when we see Gary Oldman licking the blood off that shaving razor in "Bram Stoker's Dracula"!

The thing is I am no longer 14 and I know for a fact that there is no hereafter! I am now an atheist, but much to my surprise I am not wicked or evil.

Ever since I have rejected eternal life, I have become a lot more focused on this life. The amount of charity work I am involved in is numerous. I love my family, my neighbours and all humanity regardless of their colour, their faiths and even their point of views.

I know for a fact that a loving and kind God would not torture his own creation, so I have rejected all religions available on the market as I could easily detect that they are all man-made. Each religion incredibly reflects the culture, the geographical location, the language and the time it was created in. God amazingly sounds like one of us, he gets angry, regrets, takes revenge, hates, likes and favours some over others!!!!

I am now convinced that all religions and God were man-made initially to satisfy our thirst for eternal life, then later on were picked up and developed by control freaks as "one ring rules them all" strategy!

I call upon each and everyone of you to break free from those chains of ignorance, fear, hatred and vanity...

Only then we can through "collective awareness" ascend as a race, have fulfilling and happy lives and be able to
pass on that "kind" gene to our offspring for a better future.

And this is how we become immortal, by simply being an animal who is trying to pass on the best genes available
to benefit the next generation.

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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:24 pm

I feel sorry for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:03 am

Salaam,

All_Brains I'd almost agree with you, however, I see consequences to almost anything/everything we do. Even passing own our 'best' traits, might be a torture in itself considering what you might pass own. Inherited diseases - such as what Jospeh Merrick had to live with was an unbearable and an uneeded punishment. I'm not sure I agree with your article. It's a cruel world. There's nothing on this Earth that's charming or satisfying.

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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:18 am

Abdallah wrote:
I feel sorry for you.

Would you like to elaborate on your feedback?
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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:30 am

Peace Within wrote:
Salaam,

All_Brains I'd almost agree with you, however, I see consequences to almost anything/everything we do. Even passing own our 'best' traits, might be a torture in itself considering what you might pass own. Inherited diseases - such as what Jospeh Merrick had to live with was an unbearable and an uneeded punishment. I'm not sure I agree with your article. It's a cruel world. There's nothing on this Earth that's charming or satisfying.

Peace Within

So judging by your logic that passing on some of the "rotten" traits could be a punishment from God, can you then please let us know the wisdom behind punishing unborn children? What are they being punished for? The original sin?

Regarding your last negative and pessimistic sentence, you couldn't be further from the truth. Religion had you brainwashed to underestimate this life for the hereafter! That's why most religious people struggle to come to terms with this very life.

Life is full of beauty, grace and lovely experiences...if we choose to live it that way, that is!

To be honest I was expecting more comprehensive refute on certain points, I am disappointed with the general disagreement without really pointing out why!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:36 am

Hello Peace Within

I went to start a debate challenge, but the forum is locked!!!

I would like to start a one on one debate preferably with you.

Please let me know.

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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:15 pm

Assalamulaykum,

Those people who have such disabilities/problems will not be "tested" as hard as the normal ones. These disabilities may also actually be the person's "test" given by Allah.

Also in everyone's life Allah will give us "Tests", to Test us on how strong our Faith and Belief is.



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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:23 pm

Assalamulaykum,

Dear respected guest, All Brains,

Due to many of the members being busy in a lot of "work", the website as you can see is quite lifeless. In other words, please give us some time (maybe days to weeks to months). Eventhough I come in here occasionally, I'm also very busy.

However do feel free to drop in whenever you like; just to keep yourself updated.

Thanks...


Allah Hafiz

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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:28 pm

All_Brains wrote:
Peace Within wrote:
Salaam,

All_Brains I'd almost agree with you, however, I see consequences to almost anything/everything we do. Even passing own our 'best' traits, might be a torture in itself considering what you might pass own. Inherited diseases - such as what Jospeh Merrick had to live with was an unbearable and an uneeded punishment. I'm not sure I agree with your article. It's a cruel world. There's nothing on this Earth that's charming or satisfying.

Peace Within

So judging by your logic that passing on some of the "rotten" traits could be a punishment from God, can you then please let us know the wisdom behind punishing unborn children? What are they being punished for? The original sin?

Regarding your last negative and pessimistic sentence, you couldn't be further from the truth. Religion had you brainwashed to underestimate this life for the hereafter! That's why most religious people struggle to come to terms with this very life.

Life is full of beauty, grace and lovely experiences...if we choose to live it that way, that is!

To be honest I was expecting more comprehensive refute on certain points, I am disappointed with the general disagreement without really pointing out why!!!



Salaam,



You completely misunderstood what I was pointing to. I'll elaborate later more when I have time. School is definitely a priority, so I we'll have a debate when I'm free, which might not be anytime soon.


Walikum Salaam,

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PostSubject: Re: Religious people wonder!   Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:18 am

Peace Within wrote:
All_Brains wrote:
Peace Within wrote:
Salaam,

All_Brains I'd almost agree with you, however, I see consequences to almost anything/everything we do. Even passing own our 'best' traits, might be a torture in itself considering what you might pass own. Inherited diseases - such as what Jospeh Merrick had to live with was an unbearable and an uneeded punishment. I'm not sure I agree with your article. It's a cruel world. There's nothing on this Earth that's charming or satisfying.

Peace Within

So judging by your logic that passing on some of the "rotten" traits could be a punishment from God, can you then please let us know the wisdom behind punishing unborn children? What are they being punished for? The original sin?

Regarding your last negative and pessimistic sentence, you couldn't be further from the truth. Religion had you brainwashed to underestimate this life for the hereafter! That's why most religious people struggle to come to terms with this very life.

Life is full of beauty, grace and lovely experiences...if we choose to live it that way, that is!

To be honest I was expecting more comprehensive refute on certain points, I am disappointed with the general disagreement without really pointing out why!!!



Salaam,



You completely misunderstood what I was pointing to. I'll elaborate later more when I have time. School is definitely a priority, so I we'll have a debate when I'm free, which might not be anytime soon.


Walikum Salaam,

Peace Within

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